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Have you bought the new Sony 12-24 GM ?

Antonio Correia

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Have you bought the new Sony 12-24 GM ?
Anyone ?

Are you willing to send me 12 shots with this lens coupled to a A7III ?
I would like to see them on my Mac...

Thanks ! :)
 
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I haven't bought it nor will I do so in the foreseeable future, but you can download raw and jpeg samples from two sets of samples on dpreview. They used an A7Rm4 and A7Rm3 for their samples but you can downsize them to 24 MP if you want to get a feel for what the lens does on an A7m3. I just guess that sharpness will be excellent and you don't need to resize for judging color and contrast.
https://www.dpreview.com/sample-gal...y-12-24mm-f2-8-gm-sample-gallery-dpreview-tv/
https://www.dpreview.com/sample-galleries/4240971080/sony-12-24mm-f2-8-gm/
 

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One reason I originally came to Sony was to get rid of my huge Sigma 12-24 (Canon) and pick up the (relatively) light and tiny Sony 12-24 F4. I believe the main advantage of the new lens is to get F2.8, but for my shooting style, that is no advantage at all (I almost never want shallower depth of field or need more light when shooting UWA).
 

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Part of the appeal for the 12-24 f/2.8 is the speed for astrophotography. The inconvenience of the bulbous front element hindering filters, is something tolerated.
 

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After thinking about this lens time and time again and then deciding to buy it and having it not available in my local stores, I kept checking to see if they'd get one in, and finally one day last week I decided that OK, that was enough waiting, and I ordered one from B&H. I LOVE it!!! This lens is nudging me into trying different kinds of shots from my usual, and is fun to handle and to use. The thing is a technological marvel, so I can see why it is so expensive. I am amazed at how little distortion it shows, even when shooting at 12mm. I'm still exploring things to shoot and ways of shooting, as it's been a really long time since I've had and used an ultrawide/wide angle lens.
 

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A screw CPL filter is always fixed to my UWAs and I'm happy to pay the price of a slower lens for this.
This! A polarizer is needed for ultra wide work to knock down reflections in water, plus ND's and grad ND's are awesome for landscapes and waterfalls. Long before I got into Sony I bought into the Olympus M/43 system in 2012 and they have a beautiful sharp 7-14 f2.8 Pro zoom lens (14-28 ff equivalent) that does not have filter threads either. I bought a Haida 100mm slide-in system with a special press on donut connector with mounting ring, the filter holder, a couple of graduated ND's, 3 and 10 stop ND, a polarizer and adapter rings so it could mount onto other Olympus lenses. Total cost was a little over $650 and that was for a 100mm filters system. Nisi makes a 150mm slide in filter system for the Sony 12-24GM and just for the holder and CPL is it $520 USD, the added filters are about $100 each and up so you could be near $1,000 for a complete kit. Plus a 150mm filter system is HUGE, half again as wide as the 100mm system I have, which is not small itself. Many time I left the 7-14 with filter system at home as it takes up a lot of space and I end up buying a Laowa 7.5mm f2 MF lens (15mm FF) that took standard 46mm filters.

For this reason when I got into Sony 2-1/2 years ago, I decided to get MF ultra wide angle prime lenses instead of a zoom needing a custom filter holder. I have the Voigtlander 21mm f3.5 and 15mm f4.5 lenses and they take standard screw on filters at 52mm and 58mm, which means that are small sized lenses, and makes using and carrying them so easy. They have more than met my needs for landscapes, but my 15mm is my least used lens by far. Other companies like Loawa have even wider lenses like a 9mm f2.8 that also take standard filters. Recently added the Sony 20mm f1.8, which takes 67mm filters, as I like the 20-21mm range a lot more than I like a wider perspective and I wanted a faster lens for astrophotography. Anyway my 2 Voigts and the Sony 20G combined are way less than the $3,000 Sony wants for the 12-24 f2.8GM and they all take standard filters and fit in my everyday bag.
 
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The whole filter issue is something about which I was aware going into this thing and eventually I will definitely need to do something, but at least right now I can manage without, as I don't do that extensive shooting in wideangle/ultrawide angle and landscapes, etc. (Yet!) I am having fun right now with my new lens and seeing what is and what is not possible, and also refreshing my memory significantly when it comes to shooting with wide angle/ultrawide angle since it has been a long time since I've done that. I definitely need to improve ,y technique, that I am already seeing!
 

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@Clix Pix when you are ready to try drop-in filters with your new 12-24mm GM lens, some good news as Haida released a special filter adapter for the Sony 12-24GM for only $99. You need to add the M15 filter holder which is $135. Add in a Haida 150mm polarizer for $170 and this kit would be $404 or about $120 less than the Nisi system. The new special adapter has a tension lever to tighten around the lens and does not require the lens to be remove to install. Too bad they did not make this new adapter work with their standard $70 Haida 150mm holder, probably because it weighs too much or would vignette being able to hold 3 filters vs 2 for the M15.

I have used the 100mm Haida filter holder with special adapter for my Olympus M/3 system (7-14mm f2.8 Pro lens) for 5 years without issue, the Hadia product is well made. You can get screw in sizing rings to make the filter holder only (without special adapter) work with any of your normal lenses with filter threads. I have a 62mm one for other Olympus lenses and a 67mm screw in sizing ring to let it work with my Sony 67mm filter thread lenses.

Here is a photo of the special adapter taken from the Amazon listing:



Haida HD4645 Apapter.jpg
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I pre-ordered the Tamron 11-20mm f.2.8 APSC lens...
I wanted a wide angle zoom lens (I've been using a prime Samyang/Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 AF lens which produces very good IQ but, is quite limited due to being a prime and is also a bit heavy). I purchased the 14mm with the idea of using it both on my A7iii and my A6600 but, the Tamron 28-75mm lives on the A7iii...
My standard kit for general shooting is the Sony A7iii and a Sony A6600 with a Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 lens on the full frame and a Sony 70-350mm G lens or a wide angle on the A6600. I absolutely love the IQ and form factor of both the 28-75mm and 70-350mm lenses. For a wide angle lens, I tried a Sony 10-18mm OSS lens from eBay and was not happy with its sharpness or micro-contrast. I also tried a 16-70mm Sony Zeiss f/4 lens but, that lens seemed hardly better than a kit lens and 16mm was not wide enough. The 12-24mm GM lens is too large and too heavy for my needs for carrying as part of my two camera setup...
I loved the IQ of the 12mm f/2.0 Rokinon on an APSC camera but, since it is a prime, the same imitations hold for that lens as for my 14mm Rokinon with the exceptions of form factor.
Since I love my Tamron 28-75mm so much and have also been impressed with the Tamron 17-28mm lens (although the focal range of that lens did not suit my needs), I decided to take a chance and pre-order the Tamron 11-20mm f/2.8 lens. The 16.5mm (equivalent) short side is plenty wide enough for my needs (I am not a great fan of UWA shooting) while the 30mm (equivalent) long side suits me just fine. The price and the form factor of this lens also suit me quite well. The weight is between the Sony 10-18mm and my Samyang/Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 and it is less than half the weight of the 12-24mm GM (335 grams vs 847 grams). The price at $829 USD is not at all that bad when considering the price of the GM is $2,898 from B&H...
Another plus for me is that the Tamron 11-20mm shares the same 67mm filter size as my 28-75mm and 70-350mm lenses.
 
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