Sorry AOA, but I don't agree at all. Wizard Island's reflection on the water is a big part of what makes the image work for me. A matter of taste, for sure...
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AlwaysOnAuto
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AlwaysOnAuto
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If that reflection were sharper it'd work for me too, but it isn't so the bluffs and their reflection are the picture to me.
sapoeijoek
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I would. It's from the reflection of the water.View attachment 119689
The sky was kind of "meh" up at Crater Lake at sunset yesterday afternoon, so I "fixed" it with the Sky Replacement feature of Luminar.
Honestly, if I hadn't told you this was a fake, would you have suspected?
This is the problem with the sky replacements feature both on Photoshop and Luminar. The only thing you can do is manually add it to the water.
I get what you're saying. But the way you've cropped it makes the composition completely unbalanced to my eye. But hey, if you're ever in the neighborhood, Crater Lake is only a couple of hours from my house. I'd be happy to give you the nickel tour, and you can shoot "your" version the of scene.
AlwaysOnAuto
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I would've left the tree in it too.
sapoeijoek
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The sky was replaced in Photoshop using Sky Replacement feature. Everything on the water was copied from the top part.
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AlwaysOnAuto
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I've never been known to balance any of my pictures. Wouldn't know where to begin to figure how to even do that.I get what you're saying. But the way you've cropped it makes the composition completely unbalanced to my eye. But hey, if you're ever in the neighborhood, Crater Lake is only a couple of hours from my house. I'd be happy to give you the nickel tour, and you can shoot "your" version the of scene.
I don't know how deep you want to dive into this whole composition thing, but Erez Marom has just posted his second article on composition over at DPReview that deals with the subject of compositional balance. I found it a worthwhile read. As was his first article on Masses and Lines.
WNG
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That's impressive!View attachment 119689
The sky was kind of "meh" up at Crater Lake at sunset yesterday afternoon, so I "fixed" it with the Sky Replacement feature of Luminar.
Honestly, if I hadn't told you this was a fake, would you have suspected?
Brownie
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I think that it wouldn't have occurred to anyone to even check if not asked. That's the key to manipulated images. Once we're asked then yes, it's easy enough pick it over. However, had he simply posted the image I doubt I would've viewed it with such a critical eye.
The island needs to breath. I also agree with the balance comment made above. There's nothing down front at all, you need some lake to draw your eye to the island. The lake pulls you toward the subject. In this crop, my eye is drawn to the sky.
This is one of the biggest mistakes people make when cropping, and one I'm guilty of more often than I care to admit. Leaving room around the intended subject so it has some space to breath and be natural is important.
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Wouldn't you know it? A few days after I posted the previous version of this image, I see that Skylum has released a new version of Luminar (Luminar Neo) that includes a Reflection adjustment in their Sky Replacement feature. So I downloaded it and checked it out.
OK, NOW would any of you suspect that the sky was fake unless I alerted you to that fact?
WNG
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It looks more real than most boob jobs I've seen in Las Vegas!
sapoeijoek
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Yes. Because it looks like the sky doesn't belong there. The shadows that fall on the mountain and the sunlight that's coming from behind the clouds while the original photo is from the left side.
But, the reflection works well, and if you find a sky picture that has the sunlight coming from the left, I think nobody will know it. I wouldn't.
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TedG954
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TedG954
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If this photography thing is supposed to be fun .......... then I'm getting it right.
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TedG954
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NIKON D3300
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